The Aerobic Conspiracy

Phil · #1 08-21-2009, 06:31 PM

The Aerobic Conspiracy
By Phil Stevens

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GetStronger09 · #2 09-23-2009, 04:33 PM

Great article Phil! I see this all the time even at the small gym here at work.

Question for you - if you are starting out strength training - in my definition - this means you are lifting puny weights, how much and what kinds of aerobic activity is recommended if your goals are increased strength and increased muscle mass?

For example, is half an hour using an elliptical trainer (doing 2 minutes low intensity and 2 minutes high intensity) considered just enough such that it does not compromise the goals of increasing your muscle mass in as short a time as possible?

Achieving a balance of just enough aerobics, just enough food intake and not get overly fat is much harder to figure out than actually lifting heavy weights.

Phil · #3 09-23-2009, 05:05 PM

with a goal of increasing your muscle mass in as short a time as possible can give you a very exact amount of cardio. None. absolutely no cardiovascular activity or any other activity that will impeded in any way with both the stimulus to create adaptation or the healing process.

GetStronger09 · #4 09-23-2009, 05:22 PM

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with a goal of increasing your muscle mass in as short a time as possible can give you a very exact amount of cardio. None. absolutely no cardiovascular activity or any other activity that will impeded in any way with both the stimulus to create adaptation or the healing process.

I guess I better reduce my carb intake then as I have gotten fat since starting Strength training.

Clearly I am eating more than I need to gain muscle. I have gained at least 2 inches on my waist since I started strength training about 5 months ago.

bcuzitsme · #5 09-23-2009, 05:46 PM

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I guess I better reduce my carb intake then as I have gotten fat since starting Strength training.

Clearly I am eating more than I need to gain muscle. I have gained at least 2 inches on my waist since I started strength training about 5 months ago.

I will show you fat gain!! I took pictures the other day at 245 pounds. put them side by side with my 175 pound frame january 2008 when I was less than a month into training. I have shown multiple people and they think I am a completely different person.

and 2 inches in 5 months is not that much! unless you were already obese, then might not want to be more obese, but i dunno.

GetStronger09 · #6 09-23-2009, 06:56 PM

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I will show you fat gain!! I took pictures the other day at 245 pounds. put them side by side with my 175 pound frame january 2008 when I was less than a month into training. I have shown multiple people and they think I am a completely different person.

and 2 inches in 5 months is not that much! unless you were already obese, then might not want to be more obese, but i dunno.

It's all relative isn't it?

No, I was not and am not obese by any stretch of the imagination. I am 5' 10" and currently weigh 175. I was 170 5 months ago. I suspect all my weight gain has been more fat than muscle.

JeffreyBernstein · #7 09-23-2009, 07:17 PM

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I will show you fat gain!!

hey, I'd like to see that. Might make me feel better. At least for all of your extra inches you've added the equivalent of a small minivan to your dead lift.

When I injured my neck, I started eating more so that I could repair. Over the past 4 months or so, I'm up 30 lbs. A lot of it muscle, but I'm starting to bust out of my pants. I dropped carbs again this week.

bcuzitsme · #8 09-23-2009, 07:22 PM

5 pounds in 5 months is likely not fat if you are getting stronger. even if you keep your fat% the same and add muscle (more weight), your bodyfat % goes down.
my bodyfat% has gone up but with some estimating, I have put on 40 pounds of muscle (total guess though)

I will throw my pictures up on my thread. before is january 2008 at 175 and current is 2 weeks ago at 245. I am in my undies in first pic but they are boxer briefs and bodybuilders wear less on stage so I am not too concerned about it.

GetStronger09 · #9 09-23-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bcuzitsme

5 pounds in 5 months is likely not fat if you are getting stronger. even if you keep your fat% the same and add muscle (more weight), your bodyfat % goes down.
my bodyfat% has gone up but with some estimating, I have put on 40 pounds of muscle (total guess though)

I will throw my pictures up on my thread. before is january 2008 at 175 and current is 2 weeks ago at 245. I am in my undies in first pic but they are boxer briefs and bodybuilders wear less on stage so I am not too concerned about it.

I can deadlift 325 now for 3 reps whereas the best I could do 5 months ago was 245 for 5 reps. I have definitely gotten stronger, but as far as gaining more muscle - it's not noticeable really.

Phil · #10 09-24-2009, 03:57 AM

Your DLing what 80lbs more then 5 months ago for reps. That in itself is going to increase your waist size, you know there are a LOT of muscles around the waist to that grow with heavy weight training.

5 lbs in 5 months I agree it aint going to be a lot of fat especially with numbers going up like that.